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Post by dan on Apr 15, 2019 21:14:58 GMT
Not that it is likely to happen but I would be excited to give this a chance. Both love the club and JS1 could definitely learn a thing from JS2. Considering none of our managers would have managed to get out of a paper bag this season, would be willing to give this a shot. Opinions?
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Post by sword65 on Apr 15, 2019 21:43:32 GMT
Not that it is likely to happen but I would be excited to give this a chance. Both love the club and JS1 could definitely learn a thing from JS2. Considering none of our managers would have managed to get out of a paper bag this season, would be willing to give this a shot. Opinions? Would definitely be a powerhouse combination unfortunately if you look out of the window I am sure you can still see Jay Saunders bridge's all aflame. Never gonna happen. |
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Post by hammerstone on Apr 16, 2019 6:59:09 GMT
I think Jays comments made it clear there’s probably a bet of some resentment at his exit so unless the owners eat humble pie, which will never happen, or someone else takes over I can’t ever see him back. Besides he seems to look forward not back and returning would be a back step.
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Post by Better things to do in life on Apr 16, 2019 7:05:34 GMT
Not that it is likely to happen but I would be excited to give this a chance. Both love the club and JS1 could definitely learn a thing from JS2. Considering none of our managers would have managed to get out of a paper bag this season, would be willing to give this a shot. Opinions? Hi Dan I have said many times on these threads that’s what we should have done rather than firing Jay but hindsight is a wonderful thing and yes it’s too late now unless we have a change of owners which may be a bad thing as you don’t know what you’ll get! |
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Post by 61666 on Apr 16, 2019 7:08:45 GMT
Agreed, not going to happen. However, it would have been interesting if Jay had been given a mentor like John Still, when he was struggling last season and at the start of this. Add in a goal keeping coach, scouting system and more backroom staff and we might now be at the same level as Bromley or others in mid table.
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Post by Better things to do in life on Apr 16, 2019 7:55:14 GMT
Agreed, not going to happen. However, it would have been interesting if Jay had been given a mentor like John Still, when he was struggling last season and at the start of this. Add in a goal keeping coach, scouting system and more backroom staff and we might now be at the same level as Bromley or others in mid table. Indeed we would have been I’m sure. Ahh well! |
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Post by headstone on Apr 16, 2019 7:55:16 GMT
I think Jays comments made it clear there’s probably a bet of some resentment at his exit so unless the owners eat humble pie, which will never happen, or someone else takes over I can’t ever see him back. Besides he seems to look forward not back and returning would be a back step. John Still came back..... |
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Post by Nick on Apr 16, 2019 8:04:43 GMT
JS1 and JS2 together ?
Yes, it sounds like it could have worked.
But now we have JS2 and HH.
They like each other, they work with each other, they know each other well, it's a good combination.
That's all that matters, looking forward to next season.
No point in harping back to something that didn't happen and was never going to.
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Post by hammerstone on Apr 16, 2019 8:49:39 GMT
I think Jays comments made it clear there’s probably a bet of some resentment at his exit so unless the owners eat humble pie, which will never happen, or someone else takes over I can’t ever see him back. Besides he seems to look forward not back and returning would be a back step. John Still came back..... Many years later, to what is basically a different club to the one he left |
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Post by jdl on Apr 16, 2019 10:09:15 GMT
Agreed, not going to happen. However, it would have been interesting if Jay had been given a mentor like John Still, when he was struggling last season and at the start of this. Add in a goal keeping coach, scouting system and more backroom staff and we might now be at the same level as Bromley or others in mid table. And spending the same as them. And where's that extra money coming from? This question sums up our time in the NL - and will be back to haunt us again when we return. A massive increase in gates (unlikely, when we are already one of the best supported clubs), the owners 'investing' more of their hard earned, or the fabled unicorn of 'another investor' - or we are right back where we are now. The NL is about money - just to survive, let alone to win - a glance at the table will confirm this. The top seven are all either ex-EFL, with large gates, or are buying their way to promotion. The also-rans (Sutton, Fleet and Gateshead) either didn't have the dosh to make it, or had money problems. And the rest of the league haven't even made mid-table (points-wise). In fact, without the death spirals of the four bottom clubs, the 10 clubs that look 'comfortably mid-table' would have been in a very close 14 club fight to see who stayed up. As it is, they've had a lucky break this season, but in any other year, almost any one of them could have gone down. Without a large non-football related 'income', or large gates (although that alone is no guarantee), no club is safe in the NL). If you can't afford to go up, it won't be long before you go down. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 10:44:06 GMT
Pretty similar existence to your Big Club really.
Teams like Bromley, Dover, Maidenhead, can only be a matter of time before they go back down?
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Post by jdl on Apr 16, 2019 10:55:36 GMT
Pretty similar existence to your Big Club really. Teams like Bromley, Dover, Maidenhead, can only be a matter of time before they go back down? If you don't have money (lots of money), or good gates and an EFL infrastructure (but mostly money), you're not safe in the NL. Length of time in the NL (recent spell only) for current sides: 1 season: H&W Salford Harrogate Chesterfield Braintree Barnet 2 seasons: Hartlepool Fleet Orient Maidenhead Fylde Hallifax 3 seasons: Sutton Stones D&R Solihull 4 seasons: Barrow Eastleigh Bromley Boreham Wood 5 seasons: Dover 6 seasons: Aldershot10 seasons: Gateshead 11 seasons: Wrexham Only two clubs have survived more than 6 years - Gateshead (money) and Wrexham (gates/ex-EFL) |
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Post by jdl on Apr 16, 2019 11:28:10 GMT
Just done a very quick check (probably not accurate, but close).
The average time in the NL for clubs entering the league over the last ten years has been amost exactly 3 years.
Of those clubs, 10 were promoted and 33 relegated. The promoted clubs were all ex-FL (including Macclesfield and Barnet) (NB - other clubs were promoted and relegated during this time, but they came into the NL earlier.)
Of the clubs who were relegated, only 5 returned to the NL, but two of those were then relegated again.
Rather depressing stats.
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Post by michaelmichael on Apr 16, 2019 12:16:37 GMT
listening to the podcast on kent on line, it must be re-assuring to know that Maidstone chose to employ Harry wheeler as manager as opposed to Hessenthaler, who confirms on the podcast that he had talks with maidstone, but lost out on the job to HW.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 12:16:44 GMT
Forest Green Rovers ex-FL?
***factual error in JDL post shock***
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