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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 6:43:25 GMT
Sutton are closer to the London catchment area for players, with full time clubs nearby. I'm usually sceptical when people say a side is three or four players from success, but we don't have anything to lose testing the hypothesis. We have learned they can be offloaded quickly enough if needs be. The only question is whether it's still one in one out, or will the purse strings be loosened in the bid for survival? It's not just London - other NL clubs seen more able to get Championship/PL loanees, the best we can do seems to be NL. Imagine what an U23 striker from a Prem club could do for us... That's what I have been thinking for replacing Cassidy. Hopefully this is the right time, and some of these clubs will be offloading. The J word did extremely well with Pigott, and lets not forget what Finney did for the defensive situation when he came in. It was quite a blow when Pigott left, and Finney sustained an injury.
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Post by porkystone on Jan 4, 2019 7:00:10 GMT
Shame our core group weren't even close to the standard of player Doswell manages to sign at Sutton. I dunno how he does it, but he somehow manages to put together good teams on small budgets. Meanwhile we seem to proper struggle attracting decent players to sign for us. A lot has got to do with good coaching once signed. For some years, blazers around Kent have been very sceptical about the ( poor ) quality of coaching at MUFC - just sidle up to a 'blazer' at a SCEFL or KCL game and open up a discussion - you'll soon get a robust answer. How many players have MUFC signed who've looked good and then rapidly gone down hill. Think how well some of our centre backs have passed the ball when signed only to revert latterly back to the big hoof......
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Post by sword65 on Jan 4, 2019 8:20:05 GMT
Sutton are closer to the London catchment area for players, with full time clubs nearby. I'm usually sceptical when people say a side is three or four players from success, but we don't have anything to lose testing the hypothesis. We have learned they can be offloaded quickly enough if needs be. The only question is whether it's still one in one out, or will the purse strings be loosened in the bid for survival? It's not just London - other NL clubs seen more able to get Championship/PL loanees, the best we can do seems to be NL. Imagine what an U23 striker from a Prem club could do for us... Didn't we have a striker from the under 23's of a premier league club and he was so good he barely got a game and then we got rid of of him. Ter Horst I think the name was.
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Post by daveu on Jan 4, 2019 8:55:54 GMT
Sutton are closer to the London catchment area for players, with full time clubs nearby. I'm usually sceptical when people say a side is three or four players from success, but we don't have anything to lose testing the hypothesis. We have learned they can be offloaded quickly enough if needs be. The only question is whether it's still one in one out, or will the purse strings be loosened in the bid for survival? It's not just London - other NL clubs seen more able to get Championship/PL loanees, the best we can do seems to be NL. Imagine what an U23 striker from a Prem club could do for us... What, like Coker you mean? Looked good in spells but not consistent enough.
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Post by jdl on Jan 4, 2019 9:12:10 GMT
It's not just London - other NL clubs seen more able to get Championship/PL loanees, the best we can do seems to be NL. Imagine what an U23 striker from a Prem club could do for us... What, like Coker you mean? Looked good in spells but not consistent enough. Nearly always looked like he couldn't be bothered. I think Hines had a touch of that too - happy when he was scoring and getting the adulation, but couldn't be arsed other days.
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Post by headstone on Jan 4, 2019 10:35:20 GMT
It was quite a blow when Pigott left, and Finney sustained an injury. That is the beginning and end of the current trauma. We have never recovered from the loss of Pigott.
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Post by Raymondo316 on Jan 4, 2019 12:14:21 GMT
I see Sutton have a recall option on this deal as well, so I think it's safe to say he won't be here to the end of the season.
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Post by Better things to do in life on Jan 4, 2019 12:48:58 GMT
So, this Josh is another loanee who can be recalled at any time. Are Sutton doing this deliberately to sink us? I think I am going to post on every thread - NO MORE LOANEES - and let the current ones go back. Get our loanees back and some new blood, but on PERMANENT deals - or at least until the end of the season, with NO RECALLS. TL and SW are trying to bond the team into a bunch of friends battling together to try to scrape enough points against better teams for us to stay up - they stand no chance if we continue HW's revolving door policy and the lads never know from one week to the next who they are playing with. This loanee nightmare has relegation written all over it. It has to stop.
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Post by Sennockian69 on Jan 5, 2019 2:37:55 GMT
Shame our core group weren't even close to the standard of player Doswell manages to sign at Sutton. I dunno how he does it, but he somehow manages to put together good teams on small budgets. Meanwhile we seem to proper struggle attracting decent players to sign for us. A lot has got to do with good coaching once signed. For some years, blazers around Kent have been very sceptical about the ( poor ) quality of coaching at MUFC - just sidle up to a 'blazer' at a SCEFL or KCL game and open up a discussion - you'll soon get a robust answer. How many players have MUFC signed who've looked good and then rapidly gone down hill. Think how well some of our centre backs have passed the ball when signed only to revert latterly back to the big hoof...... Could you please explain to us what you mean by a blazer? My feeling has been ( for a couple of years now ) that we don't improve attacking / creative players and if others in the industry have come to the same conclusion then if that is the prevailing perception amongst championship & higher clubs then why would you ever trust your young players to our care. This could explain our recruitment issues to a far larger extent than our pitch or location. These being red herrings to which everyone far too easily ascribes a lack of quality in the team to.
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Post by porkystone on Jan 6, 2019 9:05:34 GMT
Could you please explain to us what you mean by a blazer? My feeling has been ( for a couple of years now ) that we don't improve attacking / creative players and if others in the industry have come to the same conclusion then if that is the prevailing perception amongst championship & higher clubs then why would you ever trust your young players to our care. This could explain our recruitment issues to a far larger extent than our pitch or location. These being red herrings to which everyone far too easily ascribes a lack of quality in the team to. Sure, a 'blazer' is typically a late middle age guy who loosely works for the Kent FA, or maybe Rymans / SECFL as was, or for one of the larger Kent NL clubs. Found on the touchlines of lower league games, looking knowledgeable & fat in a padded / quilted jacket. Full of banter, knowledge & the inside track....
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Post by pedant on Jan 6, 2019 10:06:45 GMT
Could you please explain to us what you mean by a blazer? My feeling has been ( for a couple of years now ) that we don't improve attacking / creative players and if others in the industry have come to the same conclusion then if that is the prevailing perception amongst championship & higher clubs then why would you ever trust your young players to our care. This could explain our recruitment issues to a far larger extent than our pitch or location. These being red herrings to which everyone far too easily ascribes a lack of quality in the team to. Sure, a 'blazer' is typically a late middle age guy who loosely works for the Kent FA, or maybe Rymans / SECFL as was, or for one of the larger Kent NL clubs. Found on the touchlines of lower league games, looking knowledgeable & fat in a padded / quilted jacket. Full of banter, knowledge & the inside track....... and their own self importance.
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