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Post by pieman1982 on Jan 3, 2019 13:10:35 GMT
An experienced manager would surly cost a pretty penny. Would fans rather that money go on the squad with our two caretakers in charge making signings or spunk loads on the manager who would be very ristricted by budget. For me we are so short all over the pitch the money should go on players, “if” there is any money that is! I think having 6 or 7 central midfilders in the squad most of which forced to play out of position most games is a sign we need a few OUT before we can really bring many in. And with all our central midfielders we still seem poor in midfield 🤷🏼♂️ Better squad? Possibly More balanced Sqaud? Defo not!
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Post by jdl on Jan 3, 2019 13:42:35 GMT
Find a lower-league club desperate for a 'proven' striker and get our '£24k+' back on Robinson. That would give us a few quid to play with.
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Post by steveh21 on Jan 3, 2019 13:53:18 GMT
Find a lower-league club desperate for a 'proven' striker and get our '£24k+' back on Robinson. That wuold give us a few quid to play with. I have it on very very good authority and from a very reliable source that we only actually paid £3k for Robinson.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 13:58:53 GMT
Can you actualy 'replace' players you no longer have? Sorry, Mr Pedant. REPLACE 1 Take the place of. ‘Ian's smile was replaced by a frown’ 1.1 Provide a substitute for (something that is broken, old, or inoperative) ‘the glass had not long been replaced after a fight’ 1.2 Fill the role of (someone or something) with a substitute. ‘the government dismissed 3,000 of its customs inspectors, replacing them with new recruits’ 2 Put (something) back in a previous place or position. ‘he drained his glass and replaced it on the bar’
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Post by Better things to do in life on Jan 3, 2019 14:01:29 GMT
Whatever we paid for Robinson let’s get it back! As for a Manager it’s too late to expect a John Still (Retired) or a fired NL failure like MacMahon or Kinnear to turn things around as it wastes more time him getting to know everyone and then bring his own in and then get them all gelling. By the time that happens over a few games where we’ve lost or drawn and already the gap in points to survive will be huge. Bill and co need to pull on every contact they have to help Tristan and Simon recruit well and quickly and get them working together ASAP. More delay, less chance of us staying up. .
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Post by jdl on Jan 3, 2019 14:04:32 GMT
Find a lower-league club desperate for a 'proven' striker and get our '£24k+' back on Robinson. That wuold give us a few quid to play with. I have it on very very good authority and from a very reliable source that we only actually paid £3k for Robinson. Ricay claim that they "didn't make a loss" on Robinson, and they paid £24k for him. Unless they were using some very creative accounting, £21k has disappeared somewhere... And looking at Billericay's 'progress' since he went, he was obviously worth a lot to them. So if he was only worth £3k, he must have been on a pretty good wage - or else why get rid of him. And, if so, did he come to us on the same sort of wage?
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Post by Raymondo316 on Jan 3, 2019 14:49:00 GMT
Whatever we paid for Robinson let’s get it back! As for a Manager it’s too late to expect a John Still (Retired) or a fired NL failure like MacMahon or Kinnear to turn things around as it wastes more time him getting to know everyone and then bring his own in and then get them all gelling. By the time that happens over a few games where we’ve lost or drawn and already the gap in points to survive will be huge. Bill and co need to pull on every contact they have to help Tristan and Simon recruit well and quickly and get them working together ASAP. More delay, less chance of us staying up. . Kinnear a fired failure?? don't make me laugh For crying out loud the bloke for 4 seasons had Dover as play off contenders in this league. A poor 15 or so games does not cancel out the great job he did at THIS LEVEL before. Also has plenty of experience in the league below so will know exactly what to do to have us as promotion candidates next season.
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Post by Nick on Jan 3, 2019 14:50:33 GMT
Don't want to think about it - too painful !
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Post by jdl on Jan 3, 2019 14:59:06 GMT
Just been checking the figures to see exactly what sort of a task the management (whoever they might be) have got ahead of them.
Looking back over the last five NL seasons, something between 49 and 51 points seems to be safety. Although that includes two seasons where the 20th placed club stayed up on GD - and 13/14, which was a bizarre season, with Aldershot being deducted 10 points and two clubs being expelled. So, overall, I think 50-51 is more realistic - especially as there's still around 9 clubs fighting for safety.
We are currently on 22 points, with 19 games to go. So we need 28/29 points from 19 games - about 1.5 points a game. To put that in perspective, that's a win every other game, or 2 wins and three draws every 6 games. Anybody still feeling optimistic by now doesn't understand simple maths.
On the other hand, since Harry 'left', we have actually won every other game...
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Post by steveh21 on Jan 3, 2019 15:16:28 GMT
I have it on very very good authority and from a very reliable source that we only actually paid £3k for Robinson. Ricay claim that they "didn't make a loss" on Robinson, and they paid £24k for him. Unless they were using some very creative accounting, £21k has disappeared somewhere... And looking at Billericay's 'progress' since he went, he was obviously worth a lot to them. So if he was only worth £3k, he must have been on a pretty good wage - or else why get rid of him. And, if so, did he come to us on the same sort of wage? Billericay are no strangers to hyperbole... Do you really think Terry and Oliver would pay £24k for a player? I guess Billericay could no longer pay his wages. As I said the figure of £3k came from a very reliable club source.
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Post by daveu on Jan 3, 2019 15:45:06 GMT
Whatever we paid for Robinson let’s get it back! As for a Manager it’s too late to expect a John Still (Retired) or a fired NL failure like MacMahon or Kinnear to turn things around as it wastes more time him getting to know everyone and then bring his own in and then get them all gelling. By the time that happens over a few games where we’ve lost or drawn and already the gap in points to survive will be huge. Bill and co need to pull on every contact they have to help Tristan and Simon recruit well and quickly and get them working together ASAP. More delay, less chance of us staying up. . Kinnear a fired failure?? don't make me laugh For crying out loud the bloke for 4 seasons had Dover as play off contenders in this league. A poor 15 or so games does not cancel out the great job he did at THIS LEVEL before. Also has plenty of experience in the league below so will know exactly what to do to have us as promotion candidates next season. He was a failure this season, and the complaints from Dover fans about his recruitment in the summer are exactly the same as our fans' complaints about Jay. It's about time we put this one to bed once and for all, Kinnear isn't the manager to take us forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 16:22:34 GMT
Whatever we paid for Robinson let’s get it back! As for a Manager it’s too late to expect a John Still (Retired) or a fired NL failure like MacMahon or Kinnear to turn things around as it wastes more time him getting to know everyone and then bring his own in and then get them all gelling. By the time that happens over a few games where we’ve lost or drawn and already the gap in points to survive will be huge. Bill and co need to pull on every contact they have to help Tristan and Simon recruit well and quickly and get them working together ASAP. More delay, less chance of us staying up. . Why are we so willing to offload a player with an outstanding record elsewhere albeit the division below when he has not had anything like a proper chance or run of games to prove himself here. No proper service and how many starts compared to sub appearances? Give the guy a chance he could easily be the difference with a strengthened midfield to take us where we want to be. Players strengths especially strikers need to understood by the management to ensure the system and players around them can give them the service they need to thrive.
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Post by pedant on Jan 3, 2019 16:48:55 GMT
Can you actualy 'replace' players you no longer have? Sorry, Mr Pedant. I'm grateful to my replacement for his response to this
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Post by jakeyboi on Jan 3, 2019 18:08:38 GMT
Kinnear a fired failure?? don't make me laugh For crying out loud the bloke for 4 seasons had Dover as play off contenders in this league. A poor 15 or so games does not cancel out the great job he did at THIS LEVEL before. Also has plenty of experience in the league below so will know exactly what to do to have us as promotion candidates next season. He was a failure this season, and the complaints from Dover fans about his recruitment in the summer are exactly the same as our fans' complaints about Jay. It's about time we put this one to bed once and for all, Kinnear isn't the manager to take us forward. So in your opinion Daveu who is the manager capable and also available to take this club forward.
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Post by daveu on Jan 3, 2019 19:58:05 GMT
He was a failure this season, and the complaints from Dover fans about his recruitment in the summer are exactly the same as our fans' complaints about Jay. It's about time we put this one to bed once and for all, Kinnear isn't the manager to take us forward. So in your opinion Daveu who is the manager capable and also available to take this club forward. Not really sure there is one at the moment. That's why I'd like to see Tristan and Simon given a chance, even if they do sound like characters in a Wagnerian opera.
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