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Post by steveh21 on Jan 2, 2019 17:54:15 GMT
I don't think anyone knows what the answer is. Personally i'd keep T&S until the end of the season... we dont want another huge change in squad..there isn't really time. T&S know these players. A new boss will just do what Harry did and get rid of most players he didn't sign. IF We go down so be it, but I think this group will go down fighting. Also if we sign too many new players we won't be able to field a Trophy team cos they will all be cup tied!!
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Post by Nick on Jan 2, 2019 18:12:23 GMT
The truth is we are not remotely where we wanted to be . Not easy for the owners to admit to the mistake of appointing the Wheeler Dealer.
It turned out to be no less than disastrous.
Rarely can supporters have so strongly rebelled against the manager in charge.
Hardly the fault of the players past or present.
Supporters will not be united on the next spin of the dice, but for me I don't fancy another failed managarial hack who has been recently sacked and failed to find gainful employment.
No other options available now other than running with Simon and Tristan which seems a much better choice to me, for better or for worse.
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Post by gromley on Jan 2, 2019 18:14:20 GMT
If the club are just gonna appoint Lewis without actually doing a proper recruitment process they really have made a big mistake. This club is crying out for an experienced manager to take us forward, not someone who was Harry's numbers 2 and has very little managing experience. It would be just making the same mistake as we made with Wheeler. The whole fanbase was shouting from the hill tops that we needed a proper manager and now just because Tristan is saying what he knows the fans want to hear everyone is suddenly wanting him as manager?? Well Tristan did open the post training session meet & greet by quipping that it was great to have so many run out for his and Simon's "leaving do".
The answer to a later jokey question as to whether they had yet received a vote of confidence from the board suggested to me that they are effectively on an indefinite trial period. That certainly works for me. Even before Wheeler was sacked I'd formed the opinion that TL would be a decent shout for a replacement (although I wasn't sure whether he would walk with Harry).
It's certainly a gamble, because if TL & SW don't prove up to the job it will definitely be too late for a successor to turn around the season (If it's not already) .
Equally though bringing in a new guy who would probably take a few games to understand the squad would be a gamble too.
So personally I'd go for the indefinite trial period with TL & SW and if they put up a strong campaign against relegation (whether or not it is ultimately successful) they'd be strong candidates for a formal deal for next season.
I do agree though with jakeyboi that in the spirit of glasnost it would be good to here from Oliver / Terry as to plans, expectations and aspirations for the rest of the year and beyond.
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Post by pedant on Jan 2, 2019 18:17:53 GMT
I think it,s time the owners opened up to us fans with there hopes an estimations for the season an beyond. Its great that Walton an Lewis say about uniting again with the fans but let,s hear from the owners let them tell us what budget we are to expect the next manager to have an what they hope to achieve. That way there,s no disappointment for anyone. There's bound to be disappointment for someone. Or even for lots of someones.
I expect the owners will be very careful about what they say in the short term. Especially after the recent great PR successes of the KM report on Harry's interview and Bill's blog.
Its been - and I use the word very loosely - debated on here before but they are certainly under no obligation to reveal any available budget and I would suggest that doing so wouldn't be helpful now. And what can they say about potential achievements? Do they publically accept we'll be in National South next season and look to bounce back? That's hardly helpful to the current management and team. Do they support the current regime and gamble to stay up potentially restricting summer recruitment budget?
Seems to me that they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
The owners keeping the Club financially sound and existing remains my number one hope and playing in the National South again, whilst not what I would wish, isn't, for me, the overwhelming disaster others appear to be describing.
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Post by jakeyboi on Jan 2, 2019 18:51:49 GMT
I wasn,t saying it would be a disaster either but I think the time has come that the owners need to be open an honest with the fans they want an need our support both now an next season where ever we may end up, but it feels like they just want to cherry pick the snippets of information given to us so we carry on turning up each an every game but not knowing what there ambitions are for the club.
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Post by exiled on Jan 2, 2019 19:14:09 GMT
The truth goes back to Jan 2018 when the owners should have sacked Saunders and not give him a summer with a poor budget for this season and then appoint Wheeler with a budget that should have been in place pre season sorry but our current predicament is down to a series of cock ups at boardroom level and consequently national league south football sadly looks the inevitable result.
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Post by steveh21 on Jan 2, 2019 19:31:48 GMT
Whatever happened this is no time for a blame game. We have a relegation battle to win. COYS!!!
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Post by jakeyboi on Jan 2, 2019 19:53:35 GMT
Whatever happened this is no time for a blame game. We have a relegation battle to win. COYS!!! Maybe not so much a blame game Steve, but I think we deserve some honesty from the board, maybe one of them could be bold enough to stand up an say "yes we messed up" and then with a bit of honesty they can increase our support for this year an next year.
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Post by steveh21 on Jan 3, 2019 7:44:11 GMT
I think the board knows an error of judgement has been made..Bill hinted at this in the press release. My point is we all know Harry was a disaster and we are more likely to be relegated than i think we would have been if Jay had remained in charge. The real elephant in the room at any club meeting is/will be should Jay have left? Hindsight is a wonderful thing and who knows. Personally I wish Jay was still in charge but we are where we are. Let's save the inquest until the season is over so we can concentrate on trying to stay up. You never know, we might just manage it if we all pull together.
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Post by hammerstone on Jan 3, 2019 8:30:32 GMT
I think the board knows an error of judgement has been made..Bill hinted at this in the press release. My point is we all know Harry was a disaster and we are more likely to be relegated than i think we would have been if Jay had remained in charge. The real elephant in the room at any club meeting is/will be should Jay have left? Hindsight is a wonderful thing and who knows. Personally I wish Jay was still in charge but we are where we are. Let's save the inquest until the season is over so we can concentrate on trying to stay up. You never know, we might just manage it if we all pull together. I think the decision to get rid of Jay was the right one, just the timing wasn’t ideal. Let’s face it, in any sport with his record in his last 30 odd games he wouldn’t have kept his job. The mistake was just appointing Wheeler...Dover are a good example at going for a been there got the T shirt approach of a manager and it paid off
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Post by 61666 on Jan 3, 2019 8:45:51 GMT
Recent posts about the need for the owners/directors to share their thoughts are becoming ever more valid. Chances are, they have given L&W a couple of games, same as Watt, to show what they can do, at the same time as putting out feelers to see who is interested. All well and good, it is their money, after all. However, Maidstone United is not solely their club. They are custodians of a much loved local team and need to remember there are several thousand supporters, of one sort or another, who would appreciate knowing what is going on, even it is only a 'wait and see' statement. However much their money and support is appreciated (and it most certainly is), a little more clarity of intent would go down well too.
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Post by nws on Jan 3, 2019 8:51:54 GMT
If the club are just gonna appoint Lewis without actually doing a proper recruitment process they really have made a big mistake. This club is crying out for an experienced manager to take us forward, not someone who was Harry's numbers 2 and has very little managing experience. It would be just making the same mistake as we made with Wheeler. The whole fanbase was shouting from the hill tops that we needed a proper manager and now just because Tristan is saying what he knows the fans want to hear everyone is suddenly wanting him as manager?? Well Tristan did open the post training session meet & greet by quipping that it was great to have so many run out for his and Simon's "leaving do". The answer to a later jokey question as to whether they had yet received a vote of confidence from the board suggested to me that they are effectively on an indefinite trial period. That certainly works for me. Even before Wheeler was sacked I'd formed the opinion that TL would be a decent shout for a replacement (although I wasn't sure whether he would walk with Harry). It's certainly a gamble, because if TL & SW don't prove up to the job it will definitely be too late for a successor to turn around the season (If it's not already) . Equally though bringing in a new guy who would probably take a few games to understand the squad would be a gamble too. So personally I'd go for the indefinite trial period with TL & SW and if they put up a strong campaign against relegation (whether or not it is ultimately successful) they'd be strong candidates for a formal deal for next season. I do agree though with jakeyboi that in the spirit of glasnost it would be good to here from Oliver / Terry as to plans, expectations and aspirations for the rest of the year and beyond. TBF, the last time a manager took us down but was retained, it all went rather well
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Post by tim on Jan 3, 2019 9:23:49 GMT
Well Tristan did open the post training session meet & greet by quipping that it was great to have so many run out for his and Simon's "leaving do". The answer to a later jokey question as to whether they had yet received a vote of confidence from the board suggested to me that they are effectively on an indefinite trial period. That certainly works for me. Even before Wheeler was sacked I'd formed the opinion that TL would be a decent shout for a replacement (although I wasn't sure whether he would walk with Harry). It's certainly a gamble, because if TL & SW don't prove up to the job it will definitely be too late for a successor to turn around the season (If it's not already) . Equally though bringing in a new guy who would probably take a few games to understand the squad would be a gamble too. So personally I'd go for the indefinite trial period with TL & SW and if they put up a strong campaign against relegation (whether or not it is ultimately successful) they'd be strong candidates for a formal deal for next season. I do agree though with jakeyboi that in the spirit of glasnost it would be good to here from Oliver / Terry as to plans, expectations and aspirations for the rest of the year and beyond. TBF, the last only time a manager took us down but was retained, it all went rather well minor edit for you
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Post by daveu on Jan 3, 2019 10:37:29 GMT
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Post by jdl on Jan 3, 2019 12:32:45 GMT
Can you actualy 'replace' players you no longer have?
Sorry, Mr Pedant.
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