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Post by Sennockian69 on Dec 24, 2018 18:26:13 GMT
Is Dave pms? Send me a private message to dispel this mad notion I have.
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Post by gromley on Dec 24, 2018 18:37:29 GMT
Is Dave pms? Send me a private message to dispel this mad notion I have. Did you mean 'pmh'?
I thought we agreed ages ago that was you?
Totally confused now.
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Post by Sennockian69 on Dec 24, 2018 18:42:04 GMT
Is Dave pms? Send me a private message to dispel this mad notion I have. Did you mean 'pmh'?
I thought we agreed ages ago that was you?
Totally confused now.
I meant pmh - I come from a different area and can't be confused with pmh - who doesn't come from my country of birth. I just don't know why you are so easily confused.
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Post by Sennockian69 on Dec 24, 2018 18:44:24 GMT
I know pms comes from the country across the channel and is now a happy man.
pmh was never happy.
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Post by jakeyboi on Dec 24, 2018 19:01:55 GMT
So come on Daveu in your opinion who should be the next manager of the club as you an others clearly dont want HW ? It's not down to supporters to choose the manager, and I was not one of those who was anti HW, but it has dragged on too long now with no improvement, or any sign that one is imminent. I'm happy to be wrong, and if he keeps us up I'll eat my words, but how long do we leave it before it's too late. 6 points against Dover would be a start but even that might not be enough if we don't follow it up with a consistent improvement in the new year. I admit that getting rid would be a gamble but would it be any more so than giving him till the end of the season? All I really want is a bit of hope that the season won't be over before the end of January. So it,s not down to supporters to choose the manager so should it be down to the supporters to try an force a manager out like this. We have a game in hand that if we win puts us in a better position. We are where we are lets put our own personal preferences to one side an get behind the team. HW is contracted till the end of the season so let,s get with him an see what happens.
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Post by pedant on Dec 24, 2018 19:22:15 GMT
It's not down to supporters to choose the manager, and I was not one of those who was anti HW, but it has dragged on too long now with no improvement, or any sign that one is imminent. I'm happy to be wrong, and if he keeps us up I'll eat my words, but how long do we leave it before it's too late. 6 points against Dover would be a start but even that might not be enough if we don't follow it up with a consistent improvement in the new year. I admit that getting rid would be a gamble but would it be any more so than giving him till the end of the season? All I really want is a bit of hope that the season won't be over before the end of January. So it,s not down to supporters to choose the manager so should it be down to the supporters to try an force a manager out like this. We have a game in hand that if we win puts us in a better position. We are where we are lets put our own personal preferences to one side an get behind the team. HW is contracted till the end of the season so let,s get with him an see what happens. Funny that, so was someone else.
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Post by toonarmy on Dec 24, 2018 19:29:47 GMT
It's not down to supporters to choose the manager, and I was not one of those who was anti HW, but it has dragged on too long now with no improvement, or any sign that one is imminent. I'm happy to be wrong, and if he keeps us up I'll eat my words, but how long do we leave it before it's too late. 6 points against Dover would be a start but even that might not be enough if we don't follow it up with a consistent improvement in the new year. I admit that getting rid would be a gamble but would it be any more so than giving him till the end of the season? All I really want is a bit of hope that the season won't be over before the end of January. So it,s not down to supporters to choose the manager so should it be down to the supporters to try an force a manager out like this. We have a game in hand that if we win puts us in a better position. We are where we are lets put our own personal preferences to one side an get behind the team. HW is contracted till the end of the season so let,s get with him an see what happens. I don’t believe the supporters have the power to force out a manager, that will have to come from the owners, I find it extremely hard to warm to him, it didn’t help with his stupid piece in the KM, however I believe you can still support the team and not like the manager
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Post by sword65 on Dec 24, 2018 20:34:34 GMT
So it,s not down to supporters to choose the manager so should it be down to the supporters to try an force a manager out like this. We have a game in hand that if we win puts us in a better position. We are where we are lets put our own personal preferences to one side an get behind the team. HW is contracted till the end of the season so let,s get with him an see what happens. I don’t believe the supporters have the power to force out a manager, that will have to come from the owners, I find it extremely hard to warm to him, it didn’t help with his stupid piece in the KM, however I believe you can still support the team and not like the manager At least we haven't doused his wife with petrol and threaten to set her on fire like those delightful Burnley fans a few years ago,mind you it worked.
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Post by Nick on Dec 24, 2018 20:56:09 GMT
Not funny Sword !
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Post by sword65 on Dec 24, 2018 21:07:21 GMT
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Post by jdh80 on Dec 24, 2018 21:11:50 GMT
It wouldn't have mattered who came into the club there was always going to be a large percentage of the fanbase who resented the new manager due to their affection to js. What has not worked for harry wheeler is that the results have not improved, had they have done then the animosity towards him would not be as vile as it is now, there would still be that element of fans who will never accept a new manager regardless of who is in charge, even if we get a new manager it will be two weeks before we have certain fans calling for their head if we don't win their first two games in charge Not sure I agree with your first paragraph but its a view you're entitled to have. (actually I am sure, I don't agree with it)
Whilst positive results would certainly have helped his popularity the animosity ramped up considerably, not because of poor results but, because Harry appeared to blow his own trumpet whilst slagging off what had gone before in the KM interview.
Arrogance is not necessarily well received when you've got something to be arrogant about. When you haven't it just makes you look a twit.
I'm undecided about my view on whether he should go or be allowed to stay but its clear to me that the vast majority of the anti HW feeling is entirely of his own making and nothing to do with what went before.
He did not do an interview with km though. The km piece was done by the journo picking out what he wanted from the stones live interview harry did. Whilst I agree that what harry said should have been kept behind closed doors, I also believe that the km piece intentionally picked out bits to dramatise the story to get more hits/reactions to their work.
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Post by jdh80 on Dec 24, 2018 21:14:21 GMT
So it,s not down to supporters to choose the manager so should it be down to the supporters to try an force a manager out like this. We have a game in hand that if we win puts us in a better position. We are where we are lets put our own personal preferences to one side an get behind the team. HW is contracted till the end of the season so let,s get with him an see what happens. I don’t believe the supporters have the power to force out a manager, that will have to come from the owners, I find it extremely hard to warm to him, it didn’t help with his stupid piece in the KM, however I believe you can still support the team and not like the manager Being a spurs fan i continued to support them when that gooner scum George Graham took over at the lane, so i understand the feeling of supporting the team but not the manager.
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Post by jdh80 on Dec 24, 2018 21:16:39 GMT
JDL's a west ham fan they are used to chopping changing managers they have no knowledge of loyalty, one poor result and they are all sack the manager sack the board. If I have to explain the heart of the club I'm probably wasting my time but here goes. It's the feeling, the overall atmosphere which comes from players, staff,and fans together,with loyalty, banter, fun,and good football, win it lose.How much of that do you feel at the Gallagher or from the managers or even the players under HW? Completely disagree: Owners come and go Managers and staff come and go Players come and go The only constant is the fans, the fans are the heartbeat of every sports team.
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Post by toonarmy on Dec 24, 2018 21:29:46 GMT
I don’t believe the supporters have the power to force out a manager, that will have to come from the owners, I find it extremely hard to warm to him, it didn’t help with his stupid piece in the KM, however I believe you can still support the team and not like the manager At least we haven't doused his wife with petrol and threaten to set her on fire like those delightful Burnley fans a few years ago,mind you it worked. Is he married?
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Post by Nick on Dec 24, 2018 21:52:00 GMT
No, but sword won't let the facts get in the way of his story
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