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Post by daveu on Nov 6, 2018 15:51:05 GMT
Agreed. But it's down to the acoustics - they are great in the EE, the stand really amplifies and projects the sound. But you can hardly hear the TE because the roof reflects the sound down. And anywhere in the open, any noise is just lost. That does, of course, leave the MS, where the acoustics should be nearly as good as the EE (the EE is better because it's bigger and all metal). And we do get a bit of noise going sometimes (usually in response to the EE, so if you're in there, you probably can't hear us!), but, frankly, you're never going to get the (mostly) oldsters to sing like the EE does! Whilst I agree with most of what your saying it really infuriates me when people from the main stand and other areas of the ground moan about the lack of singing in the EE as though we are there just to entertain them. And it really infuriates me that people like you constantly whine about the main stand. Not everyone is comfortable singing and shouting. We're not all the same personality type so why try and force everybody to behave the same way. I guess that's why most of us are in the main stand, and therefore why the main stand tends to be quieter. I don't criticise you for the way you support The Stones. You might want to consider extending the same courtesy to those of us who are of a quieter disposition.
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Post by sword65 on Nov 6, 2018 15:52:08 GMT
Do you not remember the Kent League days when we had Aaron Lacey We used to refer to his long throws as THE tactic Yeah I remember we used it quite a lot, same with Flisher.....maybe its because we haven't used said tactic for ages now, but that throw from Muggleton was something else! the longest throw I think I've ever seen. Didn't help they had a close to 7 foot lump in the box winning every header. Seeing as the muggleton is 1200 yards away that is a hell of a throw
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Post by pedant on Nov 6, 2018 16:08:01 GMT
As for January, etc, what happens re the loan players is going to be the key to this season. If we lose key players (Smith and Turgott being the obvious ones, but two or three others would hurt us too) and don't manage to replace them, then we could be in trouble. Everyone remembers how the loss of Pigott (and, to a lesser extent, Hines) affected us, but what people don't seem to remember is how well we were doing before then. From the time Jay rebuilt the side after the 'mid-season collapse' in our first season, until we lost Pigott the following season, we were actually one of the better sides in the division, easily on play-off form, if not better. If we could have taken the end of our first season and the start of the following one and joined them together as one season, O&T would have been having kittens about 3G and capacity. And that included the rebuilding of the team when Flish and Mills went, and the transition to 'full-time'. And yet that all fell apart and we ended up with another 'mid-season collapse' and another rebuild - all because we lost one (or two) key players. O&T have got to do their utmost to prevent that from happening again this season. I thought the same, until ....
I looked at the facts which, unfortunately, I didn't keep but my recollection was that the 'best' 46 consecutive league results spread across the two seasons still only got us total points in the mid 60's.
My recollection could be wrong but I'm not going to check it again.
Ok, so I lied.
There were three games last season when that one and the previous 45 consecutive league games achieved a total of 70 points. Maidenhead away on 9th December 2017 (0-0). Woking away on 6th January (4-4) and Ebbsfleet at home on 9th January (1-2).
Would have got us to 9th-11th depending on goal difference 3 points off Fylde in the last playoff position.
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Post by Bernie on Nov 6, 2018 16:20:41 GMT
Some random thoughts. Don't recall us getting many goals from long throw-ins. With a couple of exceptions, we are generally rubbish at corners too. You can't just widen the pitch without consequences for Main Stand sight-lines; what's the view like up there? Giving a third of the big end to away fans doesn't help. Neither does the position of exits, as it sometimes looks like the whole crowd is taking the walk of shame at 85 minutes; maybe the new Riverside stand will have a walkway behind to camouflage the exodus. Only one stand ever sings at this level; accept it and move on. I am also reluctantly coming to the opinion we will never progress until we have a grass pitch.
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Post by daveu on Nov 6, 2018 16:28:14 GMT
Some random thoughts. Don't recall us getting many goals from long throw-ins. With a couple of exceptions, we are generally rubbish at corners too. You can't just widen the pitch without consequences for Main Stand sight-lines; what's the view like up there? Giving a third of the big end to away fans doesn't help. Neither does the position of exits, as it sometimes looks like the whole crowd is taking the walk of shame at 85 minutes; maybe the new Riverside stand will have a walkway behind to camouflage the exodus. Only one stand ever sings at this level; accept it and move on. I am also reluctantly coming to the opinion we will never progress until we have a grass pitch. It's not so much the main stand sight-lines that's the problem. More that we have pretty much have the minimum allowable run-off at the sides of the pitch for player safety.
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Post by jdl on Nov 6, 2018 16:35:57 GMT
Agreed. But it's down to the acoustics - they are great in the EE, the stand really amplifies and projects the sound. But you can hardly hear the TE because the roof reflects the sound down. And anywhere in the open, any noise is just lost. That does, of course, leave the MS, where the acoustics should be nearly as good as the EE (the EE is better because it's bigger and all metal). And we do get a bit of noise going sometimes (usually in response to the EE, so if you're in there, you probably can't hear us!), but, frankly, you're never going to get the (mostly) oldsters to sing like the EE does! Whilst I agree with most of what your saying it really infuriates me when people from the main stand and other areas of the ground moan about the lack of singing in the EE as though we are there just to entertain them. I will never criticise those who make a noise, the singing and chanting from the EE makes such a difference to our home games, and at away games, our fans are just amazing. My only puzzlement is that at some games they don't sing when we're losing and the team most needs it, and yet they'll sing at the end, when we've already lost - seems rather pointless. But, of course, it's entirely up to them when they sing, as a non-singer,I am in no position to criticise them. I'm just happy that they do it. And, while I'm at it, the drummers (drummers?) make such a difference - long may they continue.
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Post by porkystone on Nov 6, 2018 17:14:34 GMT
At away games, our fans are just amazing. My only puzzlement is that at some games they don't sing when we're losing and the team most needs it, and yet they'll sing at the end, when we've already lost - seems rather pointless. But, of course, it's entirely up to them when they sing, as a non-singer,I am in no position to criticise them. I'm just happy that they do it. My criticism of the away supports singing is that they continue to sing on public transport after the game on the way home. Come on guys, its not cool or clever. A lot of people in the Metropolitan London area know about football and will respect the MUFC support, but for others of perhaps an older persuasion their view of football support was formed long ago when football supporters were scum. So if Mr & Mrs Senior Londoner are navigating the grand kids around the tube on a museum run the last thing they want to encounter is twenty odd blokes singing about their fathers gun, pausing only to break wind and then launching into a song about a pikey bloke called Kedwell. Just confirms the scum tag. Sorry, it's embarrassing. Singing in the ground is magnificent, singing on the tube / train / whatever is cringeworthy...….
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Post by jakeyboi on Nov 6, 2018 17:33:26 GMT
Whilst I agree with most of what your saying it really infuriates me when people from the main stand and other areas of the ground moan about the lack of singing in the EE as though we are there just to entertain them. And it really infuriates me that people like you constantly whine about the main stand. Not everyone is comfortable singing and shouting. We're not all the same personality type so why try and force everybody to behave the same way. I guess that's why most of us are in the main stand, and therefore why the main stand tends to be quieter. I don't criticise you for the way you support The Stones. You might want to consider extending the same courtesy to those of us who are of a quieter disposition. As long as I infuriate you Daveu then I,m happy, maybe the next time you walk past my house on your way to work I might just chuck a bucket of water over you to really make my day
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Post by daveu on Nov 6, 2018 18:38:20 GMT
And it really infuriates me that people like you constantly whine about the main stand. Not everyone is comfortable singing and shouting. We're not all the same personality type so why try and force everybody to behave the same way. I guess that's why most of us are in the main stand, and therefore why the main stand tends to be quieter. I don't criticise you for the way you support The Stones. You might want to consider extending the same courtesy to those of us who are of a quieter disposition. As long as I infuriate you Daveu then I,m happy, maybe the next time you walk past my house on your way to work I might just chuck a bucket of water over you to really make my day Which says a lot more about you than it does me.
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Post by jdl on Nov 6, 2018 20:32:03 GMT
jakeyboi = Frenchstone??
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Post by daveu on Nov 6, 2018 21:48:45 GMT
Nah, French Stone may be a wind up merchant but I don't believe he does it with any malice.
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Post by jakeyboi on Nov 6, 2018 21:58:15 GMT
What are you on about now you old codger..
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Post by jakeyboi on Nov 6, 2018 21:59:05 GMT
Nah, French Stone may be a wind up merchant but I don't believe he does it with any malice. Oh Daveu are you saying I,m a person full of malice.
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Post by daveu on Nov 6, 2018 22:09:52 GMT
Nah, French Stone may be a wind up merchant but I don't believe he does it with any malice. Oh Daveu are you saying I,m a person full of malice. Draw your own conclusions.
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Post by jdl on Nov 6, 2018 22:35:14 GMT
Nah, French Stone may be a wind up merchant but I don't believe he does it with any malice. Oh Daveu are you saying I,m a person full of malice. Better than being French!
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