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Post by jdl on Aug 11, 2019 20:42:08 GMT
Agreed. And normally, I would have waited for 10 or so games. But, based on the experience of previous seasons, the final figures won't be far off these. But my original posts wasn't really about predicting our gates or position, it was to highlight the high attendances in the NL this year (rather than what attendance we might or might not get). Whereas before we have been used to being 7th or 8th, this season it looks likely that the combination of so many ex-EFL sides and the new Sugar Daddy clubs will push us some way down the table. So, now I'm confused.
You agreed my post which basically said your points weren't yet proved and then, having done so, you repeat your original conclusions.
OK, one more time. I agreed that what you said made sense if I was doing a proper statistical analysis on meaningful data. But I wasn't. First I was pointing out that, even though this isn't solid data, my experience is that when we get better data, the results won't be much different (mainly because of the way averages are affected less as the number of incidences increases - assuming a reasonably steady set of individual figures*). And therefore this is actually likely to be a fairly reliable indicator. And secondly, my main point was that the early games indicate that there are significantly more clubs getting high attendances this season, so we are unlikely to find ourselves anywhere near our usual position in the attendance table - even if we get regular gates in the low 2000s. I may be wrong, but I would be surprised if there more than one or two significant deviations. Time will tell. I can't think of any other way of explaining what I meant, and I am not Dave U or the new nws - so that's it. (*And, of course, this is where things might go haywire - the bigger clubs tend to have fairly regular gates because of their large home following, whilst the smaller clubs' attendances can vary greatly, depending on the opposition. But, as most of the high attendances are bigger clubs, hopefully this won't derail too many of my assumptions.)
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Post by Bernie on Aug 19, 2019 17:45:59 GMT
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Post by sword65 on Aug 19, 2019 18:20:30 GMT
Danny Hunter is a C$%T and deserves nuffink. £20 + to get in for away fans f**k HIM!!!!
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Post by johnpearce on Aug 19, 2019 18:31:54 GMT
Truly tinpot. And that’s an insult to the tin pot.
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Post by johnpearce on Aug 19, 2019 18:35:22 GMT
Truly tinpot. And that’s an insult to the tin pot. What must Notts County fans make of being in the same league as Boring Wood. They’re essentially an Isthmian League North club giving Danny hunter a hard on.
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Post by michaelmichael on Aug 19, 2019 20:41:31 GMT
Apart from thie chairmans significant funding ,aren't BW also well financed by Arsenal Football club whose ladies team play there and use the facilities for one assumes a reasonablte fee. Lose that additional income stream and they really would struggle .
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Post by HartleyHare on Aug 19, 2019 20:48:54 GMT
Apart from thie chairmans significant funding ,aren't BW also well financed by Arsenal Football club whose ladies team play there and use the facilities for one assumes a reasonablte fee. Lose that additional income stream and they really would struggle . Yes you’re right Michael, they are bankrolled by Arsenal. (Come on gunners, pull the plug !) By the way, I’ve been to the ground and “used the facilities” there without it costing me “a reasonable fee” ! Although last t8me (end of December) there were no lights in the gents so it was a case of having to have a piss in total f”””ing darkness. So tinpot they don’t even pay the electricity !!
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Post by jdl on Aug 20, 2019 9:18:00 GMT
Apart from thie chairmans significant funding ,aren't BW also well financed by Arsenal Football club whose ladies team play there and use the facilities for one assumes a reasonablte fee. Lose that additional income stream and they really would struggle . Yes you’re right Michael, they are bankrolled by Arsenal. (Come on gunners, pull the plug !) By the way, I’ve been to the ground and “used the facilities” there without it costing me “a reasonable fee” ! Although last t8me (end of December) there were no lights in the gents so it was a case of having to have a piss in total f”””ing darkness. So tinpot they don’t even pay the electricity !! I think it's not just Le Arse, Watford reserves use the stadium as well (or they used to). It's basically a reserve pitch with a local vanity team using it too. And Hunter getting a hard-on.
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Post by jdl on Aug 20, 2019 9:19:04 GMT
Yes you’re right Michael, they are bankrolled by Arsenal. (Come on gunners, pull the plug !) By the way, I’ve been to the ground and “used the facilities” there without it costing me “a reasonable fee” ! Although last t8me (end of December) there were no lights in the gents so it was a case of having to have a piss in total f”””ing darkness. So tinpot they don’t even pay the electricity !! I think it's not just Le Arse, Watford reserves use the stadium as well (or they used to). It's basically a reserve pitch with a local vanity team using it too. And Hunter getting a hard-on. Although, of course, they are still in the NL, and we're not...
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Post by hammerstone on Aug 20, 2019 9:22:27 GMT
They might have a good business model as he makes out in the interview but as we’ve seen from a few clubs lately when the interest in losing money wears off and the rugs pulled from their feet, with what they would be left with in terms of gate revenue etc they would be really up against it.
Hunters interview very much reads as, I’ve spent some cash which I’ll never see, there’s no real glory, no passionate fan base, what’s the point?
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Post by jdl on Aug 20, 2019 11:25:31 GMT
They might have a good business model as he makes out in the interview but as we’ve seen from a few clubs lately when the interest in losing money wears off and the rugs pulled from their feet, with what they would be left with in terms of gate revenue etc they would be really up against it. Hunters interview very much reads as, I’ve spent some cash which I’ll never see, there’s no real glory, no passionate fan base, what’s the point? Being non-partisan for a moment, isn't that true for us all? The only real difference is the number of supporters. For instance, what's the difference between Dover and BH? Just a few hundred fans. Neither is a viable NL club without additional, non-match, income, and both are run by owners who dream of EFL football and constantly harrange the locals for not coming to games. And then there's us - we DO have a self-sustaining business model, and gates to support it, but not at NL level. And, whilst we're (rightly) proud of our attendance, it's only good by non-league standards (and not even that good these days). To most higher level clubs, a club that can't reach 3k gates, even in the good times, must seem like BW does to us. Much as I hate the idea, the average Gills fan must see us like that. They can sustain L1 football, we can't even manage to compete at NL level. Ultimately, it's all just relative.
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Post by pwoodstone on Aug 20, 2019 11:59:42 GMT
They might have a good business model as he makes out in the interview but as we’ve seen from a few clubs lately when the interest in losing money wears off and the rugs pulled from their feet, with what they would be left with in terms of gate revenue etc they would be really up against it. Hunters interview very much reads as, I’ve spent some cash which I’ll never see, there’s no real glory, no passionate fan base, what’s the point? Being non-partisan for a moment, isn't that true for us all? The only real difference is the number of supporters. For instance, what's the difference between Dover and BH? Just a few hundred fans. Neither is a viable NL club without additional, non-match, income, and both are run by owners who dream of EFL football and constantly harrange the locals for not coming to games. And then there's us - we DO have a self-sustaining business model, and gates to support it, but not at NL level. And, whilst we're (rightly) proud of our attendance, it's only good by non-league standards (and not even that good these days). To most higher level clubs, a club that can't reach 3k gates, even in the good times, must seem like BW does to us. Much as I hate the idea, the average Gills fan must see us like that. They can sustain L1 football, we can't even manage to compete at NL level. Ultimately, it's all just relative. We can compete at NL level. We did for 2 seasons....
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Post by jdl on Aug 20, 2019 16:35:45 GMT
Being non-partisan for a moment, isn't that true for us all? The only real difference is the number of supporters. For instance, what's the difference between Dover and BH? Just a few hundred fans. Neither is a viable NL club without additional, non-match, income, and both are run by owners who dream of EFL football and constantly harrange the locals for not coming to games. And then there's us - we DO have a self-sustaining business model, and gates to support it, but not at NL level. And, whilst we're (rightly) proud of our attendance, it's only good by non-league standards (and not even that good these days). To most higher level clubs, a club that can't reach 3k gates, even in the good times, must seem like BW does to us. Much as I hate the idea, the average Gills fan must see us like that. They can sustain L1 football, we can't even manage to compete at NL level. Ultimately, it's all just relative. We can compete at NL level. We did for 2 seasons.... We survived for two, and crashed and burned in the third - I wouldn't describe any of them, even the first, as 'competing'.
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Post by pwoodstone on Aug 20, 2019 19:49:51 GMT
We can compete at NL level. We did for 2 seasons.... We survived for two, and crashed and burned in the third - I wouldn't describe any of them, even the first, as 'competing'. Really?! We won or drew 54 and lost 38 of our games in the first two seasons, so about 60% of the time we were not beaten. That is competitive by anyone’s standards. When you factor in the ex-League clubs, i think this must constitute competitiveness. Last season was a Horlicks of almighty proportions as well all know.
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Post by Bernie on Aug 20, 2019 21:29:13 GMT
I notice BW don't count ST holders who don't attend (puts on tin helmet).
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