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Post by Raymondo316 on Dec 3, 2018 0:13:35 GMT
Gushing article in today's NLP praising Peter Taylor's astute management of D & R, he is, in turn, deeply appreciative of the new owners hands off support. They were deep in the shit, when we were hovering above it and thinking we were safe. But they did what we needed to do - won 6 of their next 7 games - and now they are well clear and coasting towards the play-offs. Whilst we are... All about timing too - you can do a D&R-style great escape reltively easily before mid-season, far from so easy after Christmas. Expect to see Dover float past us next, and then we'll be in a 4 month long scrap with 4 or 5 other crap teams to see who can beat the odds. Remind me - just how much better is this than under Jay...If Terry and Oliver had gone with the original plan of appointing someone with experience at this level or above I'm pretty sure we would be in a lot better situation than we are now. Our current mess is what happens when you appoint someone who is well out of their depth.
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Post by porkystone on Dec 12, 2018 15:06:05 GMT
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Post by sword65 on Dec 12, 2018 15:22:10 GMT
How much will it cost them if they do a York City who haven't even stopped falling yet?
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Post by jdl on Dec 12, 2018 20:49:47 GMT
How much will it cost them if they do a York City who haven't even stopped falling yet? They won their last game - after Christ knows how long wihout a win (longer than our bad run last season). Any connection with shipping out Hines?
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Post by Raymondo316 on Dec 12, 2018 20:54:07 GMT
How much will it cost them if they do a York City who haven't even stopped falling yet? They won their last game - after Christ knows how long wihout a win (longer than our bad run last season). Any connection with shipping out Hines? 1 win in 20 league games yet somehow they're still above us!!
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Post by 61666 on Dec 12, 2018 20:58:07 GMT
How much does it cost to be relegated to NLS? We also have a vested interest in such things.
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Post by sword65 on Dec 12, 2018 21:02:38 GMT
How much does it cost to be relegated to NLS? We also have a vested interest in such things. I don't know but don't forget Chesterfields loss includes ,I think, their huge parachute payment for relegation and they will receive a smaller payment next year . Should we go down we receive sweet FA.
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Post by jdl on Dec 12, 2018 23:55:12 GMT
They won their last game - after Christ knows how long wihout a win (longer than our bad run last season). Any connection with shipping out Hines? 1 win in 20 league games yet somehow they're still above us!! They started from a much better position - and most of those non-winning games were draws. It vividly illustrates just how bad our position is. In previous seasons, we've had quite a few points in the bank before the 'mid-season' collapse, this year we had very few, so we have a much lower base from which to recover - and the longer our recovery takes to start, the worse that situation gets. We will end up still totally dependant on teams above us having trouble, even if we are winning frequently. In my last relegation at West Ham, we had a cracking end to the season - European place form, great football, plenty of goals and wins, even did the double over Chelsea - but still we went down, because the clubs above us did just enough to stay above us. Unless you've experienced this sort of relegation - where nothing you can do saves you - you have no real appreciation of just what sort of shite we are in at the moment. Clubs one place off the bottom, with just 19 points grom 23 games at Christmas, do not stay up.
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Post by sword65 on Dec 13, 2018 2:36:36 GMT
1 win in 20 league games yet somehow they're still above us!! They started from a much better position - and most of those non-winning games were draws. It vividly illustrates just how bad our position is. In previous seasons, we've had quite a few points in the bank before the 'mid-season' collapse, this year we had very few, so we have a much lower base from which to recover - and the longer our recovery takes to start, the worse that situation gets. We will end up still totally dependant on teams above us having trouble, even if we are winning frequently. In my last relegation at West Ham, we had a cracking end to the season - European place form, great football, plenty of goals and wins, even did the double over Chelsea - but still we went down, because the clubs above us did just enough to stay above us. Unless you've experienced this sort of relegation - where nothing you can do saves you - you have no real appreciation of just what sort of shite we are in at the moment. Clubs one place off the bottom, with just 19 points grom 23 games at Christmas, do not stay up. We agree on one thing at least!
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Post by distantfan on Dec 13, 2018 3:39:00 GMT
JDL - we have experienced it. The season that Jay took over as player manager with us deep in relegation trouble. He turned things completely around but couldn't save us from the drop.
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Post by daveu on Dec 13, 2018 8:58:00 GMT
JDL - we have experienced it. The season that Jay took over as player manager with us deep in relegation trouble. He turned things completely around but couldn't save us from the drop. The current situation reminds me very much of that time. Manager sacked, new manager comes in with a revolving door policy on player recruitment, performances don't improve. The only thing missing is that this time round the club isn't 24 hours from bankruptcy. Are we going to find a saviour this time, or will Harry turn out to be the hero and future club legend? Who knows, but currently very depressing times for us supporters.
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Post by porkystone on Dec 13, 2018 8:59:51 GMT
How much will it cost them if they do a York City who haven't even stopped falling yet? What's interesting about Chesterfield - per what you can gather from the article - is how as a football club they appear ( ed ) to be pissing money away on things not directly related to day to day football, such as former directors receiving a staggering £ 229,418 . Of course not sure of the detail / circumstances, but surely not prudent to be obliged to pay that sort of sum. You could say a case of Billy Big B******cks, whose B******cks have just shrunk a lot …….
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Post by Nick on Dec 13, 2018 9:21:27 GMT
JDL - we have experienced it. The season that Jay took over as player manager with us deep in relegation trouble. He turned things completely around but couldn't save us from the drop. The current situation reminds me very much of that time. Manager sacked, new manager comes in with a revolving door policy on player recruitment, performances don't improve. The only thing missing is that this time round the club isn't 24 hours from bankruptcy. Are we going to find a saviour this time, or will Harry turn out to be the hero and future club legend? Who knows, but currently very depressing times for us supporters. I have to agree with you daveu, these are depressing times for recent Stones supporters, but hardly comparable to the horrors of previous decades. BUT this is 2018/19, we are where we are now - locked into a new management team, players who are unfamiliar to us, playing turgid football, not scoring goals and losing matches. Surely it cannot get any worse as we stare into the abyss of relegation to the National South Still, we approach the season for miracles and as you say there really is time for Harry to change from villain to hero and club legend. Here's hoping that Christmas produces the much needed change in fortunes for Harry and the club.
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Post by headstone on Dec 13, 2018 9:40:36 GMT
Surely relegation would only be a pothole on the club's upward journey, hardly an "abyss".
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Post by pedant on Dec 13, 2018 11:42:28 GMT
The current situation reminds me very much of that time. Manager sacked, new manager comes in with a revolving door policy on player recruitment, performances don't improve. The only thing missing is that this time round the club isn't 24 hours from bankruptcy. Are we going to find a saviour this time, or will Harry turn out to be the hero and future club legend? Who knows, but currently very depressing times for us supporters. I have to agree with you daveu, these are depressing times for recent Stones supporters, but hardly comparable to the horrors of previous decades. BUT this is 2018/19, we are where we are now - locked into a new management team, players who are unfamiliar to us, playing turgid football, not scoring goals and losing matches. Surely it cannot get any worse as we stare into the abyss of relegation to the National South Still, we approach the season for miracles and as you say there really is time for Harry to change from villain to hero and club legend. Here's hoping that Christmas produces the much needed change in fortunes for Harry and the club. I could be wrong but I suspect that for a fair number of supporters Harry may have burnt his bridges already and could not achieve club legend status no matter what success he achieves.
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