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Post by ontheup on Jan 13, 2013 22:15:51 GMT
One thing I don't understand is why is there such a massive pressure to get promoted? Don't get me wrong, I want it as much as anybody else but what are the consequences if we don't?
Are the masses going to stop coming to the GS?
Will we lose all our best players?
Will we have a change of manager?
The upside being of course we will be one step nearer the conference which is where we want to be.
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Post by islandstone on Jan 13, 2013 22:52:08 GMT
i think the thing is that people are seeing the crowds, us flirting with 1st place, being a big town, the club history in the football league and therefore a higher expectancy and expect it all to happen asap. ive been guilty of it sometimes. when you see teams like dartford dover tonbridge in the higher leagues you want to be there or above. bearing in mind mufc has gone through the transition from nomadic to back home, its going amazingly well, it couldn't have gone any better, double expected attendances etc etc. we'll attract players no probs with stable situation here. glad to be able to walk to the ground, seeing other stones fans doing the same. it was a bloody long walk to ashford or s*ittingbourne. time and patience, enjoy what we have. i wouldnt swap this for ryman prem and bourne park. p n l
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Post by pezza on Jan 13, 2013 23:06:22 GMT
One thing I don't understand is why is there such a massive pressure to get promoted? Don't get me wrong, I want it as much as anybody else but what are the consequences if we don't? Are the masses going to stop coming to the GS? Will we lose all our best players? Will we have a change of manager? The upside being of course we will be one step nearer the conference which is where we want to be. Will we loss the masses if we don't get promoted? Not quite, probably just afew hundred plastics lol Will we loss our best players? Naa just can,t see any of them being that stupid But will we loss mr Saunders??? Unfortunately I believe so, I for one would bloody be sickened if this is the case but we don't know until and we hopefully will never because we're going to get promoted (if not though we HAVE to keep jay to keep the harmony WE AIN'T NO CHELSEA) COYS!!!
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Post by stevecragg on Jan 14, 2013 5:54:19 GMT
I think promotion is a must with the squad available and the money the huge crowds are generating we can actually pay fee for players,if we didnt we wouldn't lose the crowds or our wonder stadium,as us faithful followed the team in worse times in muddy fields,the club had a 5yr plan and they must progress
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Post by oxfordinmaid on Jan 14, 2013 7:44:58 GMT
Yes PROMOTION is a must Rymans south for a town our size with the crowds we are getting is not an high enough level, let's not live in the past time to move on. COYS
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Post by aristotle38 on Jan 14, 2013 8:21:20 GMT
Surely the level we should be aspiring to is the Premier right now ? Beyond that who knows - apart from anything else we wouldn't be allowed to play any higher than that at present. But I would imagine that one or two of our team have bought into the club vision on the basis that we will rise soon, and so another season in the South may test their patience.
As for crowds, they will dwindle a bit if we stay where we are.....if we go up they should stay reasonably constant but they won't go up.
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Post by tim on Jan 14, 2013 8:30:56 GMT
One thing I don't understand is why is there such a massive pressure to get promoted? Don't get me wrong, I want it as much as anybody else but what are the consequences if we don't? Are the masses going to stop coming to the GS? Will we lose all our best players? Will we have a change of manager? The upside being of course we will be one step nearer the conference which is where we want to be. Run your why do we have to go up theory past Bill Terry and Oliver But make sure you have a suitable head start when you start running!
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Post by porkystone on Jan 14, 2013 8:54:01 GMT
Lots of good points on this thread.
At the moment we are in a honeymoon period and people are still dazzled by the novelty of coming to a quality local facility like JWW. Also, for your £10 you get a 90 minute soap opera - lots of ups and downs - unbeatable value.
Eventually though people will realise that R1S is not great quality and for an individual supporters own self esteem they want to be associated with a winning upwardly mobile team . So interest will fade if we stagnate.
So lets make the most of this current opportunity and push like crazy to get promoted.
In every year there are a handful of good teams who are contenders - Dulwich obviously in this year - so there is no easy promotion year.
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Post by steveh21 on Jan 14, 2013 8:58:40 GMT
Promotion is essential. The quality of football in the Ryman South is much poorer than the Ryman Premier and with the set-up we have and the crowds we are getting we as geared up as a Conference club. Please please don't let us become one of those unambitious Kent clubs. You have to want to play at the highest level you can - however much of a dream that is. The current club is getting higher gates than the old club used to get in the Alliance Premier League (Conference) so being stuck in the Ryman South - just one up from Kent League Football - is NOT an option IMO!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 9:00:03 GMT
These discussion inevitably end up talking about whether or not you go up as being some kind of preferential choice. It's not. You should aim for promotion every season, but it only comes if you are good enough and earn it.
The only downside I can see is the owners having to find more money for ground improvements so soon after borrowing the money to build the stadium. But that's their problem not mine.
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Post by toonarmy on Jan 14, 2013 9:52:31 GMT
Promotion must be achieved this year to keep the momentum going, it would have been a target which would have been expected this year with the team we have. I still believe we will go up this year and the biggest obstacle is Dulwich Hamlet, who we need to beat on Saturday....COYS
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 9:59:09 GMT
Personally I couldn't give a sh** about promotion, I'm just enjoying watching the Stones back in the stone and being competitive. Promotion would be a bonus. However, from the club's point of view, it is essential, and failure would almost certainly mean bye bye Jay (sorry Tim! )
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Post by tim on Jan 14, 2013 10:09:09 GMT
(sorry Tim! ) No need, I would tend to agree with you! But the club..........................
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 10:27:47 GMT
These discussion inevitably end up talking about whether or not you go up as being some kind of preferential choice. It's not. You should aim for promotion every season, but it only comes if you are good enough and earn it. The only downside I can see is the owners having to find more money for ground improvements so soon after borrowing the money to build the stadium. But that's their problem not mine. I doubt crowds would go up by that much if we went up. If anything crowds would go down slightly as the novelty factor diminishes slightly
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Post by StonedProf on Jan 14, 2013 11:34:42 GMT
The only downside I can see is the owners having to find more money for ground improvements so soon after borrowing the money to build the stadium. But that's their problem not mine. The only thing we'd need to meet the grading is one more turnstile, and we need that anyway given the queues that have been outside the ground. Crowd sizes are putting more demands on infrastructure than ground grading regulations, for once. Anyway, the break-even figure for 1st team matchday crowds was around 850 I think, and we're getting around double that. We also apparently do not have the biggest playing budget in the division. I'd like to go up. The standard of football at step 3 is far greater than at step 4, and most clubs will actually bring some supporters. I'd like Dulwich to go up with us. Will be interesting to see what number our crowds settle at. I expected attendances to fall after the first few games but they've gone up instead, and we're getting far higher crowds in mid-winter than I would have predicted.
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